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But is it just a last ditch attempt to reconcile with their daughter? Plus could a real-life contagion happen and would you survive.
Joy`s got TV`s "The Doctors" here to answer your medical question. JOY BEHAR, HLN HOST: Casey Anthony has not spoken publicly since being acquitted of murdering her daughter, Caylee, but her parents are speaking out in an exclusive interview with Dr.
That they did or didn`t but that`s been some speculation that`s out there on whether it happened or not. MCGRAW: I think Cindy has across the past, she talks about that during the interview that she had gone into a therapeutic relationship before any of this happened, which she certainly credits with helping her cope with this during this time. I think they`re kind of in survival mode, putting one foot in front of the other, just letting days turn into weeks and hoping to get some distance from this pain.
It apparently must have been enough to raise reasonable doubt that Casey had some kind of mitigating circumstances, shall we say psychological ones. MCGRAW: Well, I`ve heard people say, you know, how could he get away with suborning perjury, Jose Baez? This one they don`t like could be a vulnerable target, let`s focus on them and come up with a way to create reasonable doubt there. MCGRAW: Now, the defense team hasn`t acknowledged that.
We`ll see what happens when the drug report comes out. Russell Armstrong, the husband of Taylor Armstrong committed suicide after the production of the second season of the show and there`s a real question about should the show even be on the air at the second season and given what happened, indeed, did the show somehow contribute to his death. And they know this is going to get good ratings for them. You know, she`s still at 87 open to new experiences and new love.
BEHAR: So, do you think they`re spinning it a little to alleviate their guilt? But I think they know her better than anybody and they`ve been very public and very honest all along about her drug use, it was not like they were pretending she wasn`t having substance abuse issues all along. COOPER: You know, it`s -- we`re all complex people. I mean maybe they -- maybe Bravo should have canceled the whole season. There`s no way they`re going to -- They`ve invested a lot of money in this, this is a big company. But, you know, it`s interesting - it`s interesting to see these women kind of try to deal with something which is very real and to see how real they really are and how to deal with. You know, she`s the strongest person I know but she`s not tough. They actually -- she produced an interview with the producers of the show without my knowing about my dad and about what he would think of me.
MCGRAW: There`s been a leak about that that came out in advance of the interview. MCGRAW: I think she is desperate to reconcile within herself how her daughter could do these things or this thing because she`s saying, "My daughter couldn`t do that. I said, isn`t it possible that this is just a really bad character flaw, that this is the actions of an unconscionable psychopath or sociopath. The thought was maybe it was just garbage or something like that.
Tell me, what did Cindy tell you about a seizure that Casey had? I mean -- BEHAR: This is just Cindy hallucinating that the girl might have had something to explain the behavior without any kind of proof at all. Casey controls those so, of course, I haven`t seen them. In fact there was something that had maggots growing on and a pizza box. And that was easier for me now being a grandfather, where I have a little granddaughter about Caylee`s age.
MCGRAW: I think they think different things, Cindy and George. So I think they have a hard time letting their mind go there. This is a way of spinning it so that people out there furious with Casey Anthony can say see, she had a grand mal seizure and really didn`t know what she was doing. And the defense was trying to create reasonable doubt, the prosecution was trying to meet a standard of proof to get a conviction. And if you`ve ever smelled a dead body, there`s not another smell like it. BEHAR: He said he did acknowledge it was an overwhelming odor. As did the person that worked in the tow yard and -- BEHAR: Well, who did he think had been killed in the trunk? I mean, you know, we discussed this earlier with you on "The View." And you were saying as a grandparent, you can`t imagine not seeing your grandchild for more than two days, three days, much less 31 days. MCGRAW: Well, you know, Joy, I think sometimes we just -- we get so analyzing something that we forget about common sense. Some of them will feel worse, some of them will feel better. How they learned about Casey`s version of what happened to Caylee, who called them and told them, how they reacted to that.
Joy, I think one of the biggest problems they have is trying to wrap their mind around that a child of theirs could do something horrific to their child. They said that was one of the reasons that they wanted to talk to me about this instead of someone else because the issues here, the family dynamics here, the conflicts of divided loyalty between your daughter and your granddaughter just have been so conflicted, they thought, I want to talk to somebody that maybe will have some insight and understanding into the psychological ramifications of all of this. But it could be that the Anthonys are spinning this story, they`re afraid for their daughter, they`re afraid for themselves. MCGRAW: I think they -- I think each of them -- when I sat down with each of them, I said, look, you guys went through this litigation process here. They gave me no off-limits, any, no holds barred, ask anything, we`ll answer anything. MCGRAW: Well, as a police officer he has been around dead bodies that have started the decomposition process. BEHAR: So she doesn`t believe any of the molestation charges either then, I guess? BEHAR: What about the 31 days that the kid was missing? MCGRAW: -- and find out she doesn`t work there at all. Whichever side of that continuum you`re on, I think they may move their position after they hear this. But we talked an awful lot about what was going on below the surface while all this that we were seeing was happening.
BEHAR: Well, you know, I don`t want to be cynical or mean now. I think -- BEHAR: You believe these people -- that they were sincere? And if they were trying to spin this up and get me to create an impression one way or another, they sure picked some unusual things to include. MCGRAW: Well, I think her saying what she`s saying about the tumor lacks such credibility to an objective finder of fact, that doesn`t wash. BEHAR: What did he think when he took a whiff of that? MCGRAW: And in fact, Cindy being the primary caregiver besides Casey, to radio silence, 31 days. I want to -- so she goes to where she worked, to see her -- (CROSSTALK) BEHAR: Yes. I don`t want to color their answers, the texture of their answer, the tone. Because I`ve said, if you have an opinion about these people, and most people do, Joy, they either hate them or -- or they think they`ve been victimized here and suffered a terrible loss. I think a very interesting part of this whole thing is we know what we`ve seen and heard in the media and actually in the trial. About this guy, Ted Williams, by the way, isn`t he a baseball player who died in 2012 -- 2002?
As saw in that horrible video her in Belgrade stumbling on the stage what was to be her big comeback concert this summer, that wasn`t happening. You know, I mean I think - I think it remains to be seen what happened and I think we`ll know in a month. BEHAR: It`s interesting that Anderson Cooper is a "Housewives" fan. And yet, she is a survivor but she has none of the toughness that that term implies.
ANDERSON COOPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: For three years? (END VIDEO CLIP) BEHAR: I`m happy to welcome to my show for the first time actually Anderson Cooper. The end is in sight, she stopped doing drugs and she`s talking about - and seriously talking about getting off alcohol. But I watched the whole first season as a viewer, watching the second season, you know, it was kind of a guilty pleasure of mine, and now it`s sort of, I don`t know, knowing what we know now, I don`t know, I look at it differently. BEHAR: Now, let`s talk about you having your mom on your show. My dad died when I was ten -- after 12 years of marriage and my brother committed suicide in front of her.